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  Could they make not donating a disfellowshipping offence?

  by purrpurr in

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  i'm wondering at how far the borg could go in begging for money?

  their halls are already resembling the"money changers in the temple".

  as they get sued more and more due to their pedophilic paradise their coffers will be ever more drained.

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  James Jack

  You would loose 3/4 of the Congregation, at least in our case! We only have 5 out of 70 main contributors( I know because I'm the Accounts Servant).

  An Elder asked me recently; "Why do You think our Accounts have run out of money?". I said: "Only 2 Elders out of 7 contribute each month and in the past 2 years, only 1 of our MS out of 6 has. We rarely get Cash, we don't accept Cards, so I base my answer on the Checks we receive".

  Our last 2 Local Needs talks have been about donating, those that contribute, just donated more.
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  My Bible Study Is Wide Awake To The TTATT

  by James Jack in

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  i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.

  we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!

  "did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.

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  WingCommander

  I guess you just don't it! 35 years of Conditioning is a strong pull.

  As for myself, I need a Moral Compass. I'm afraid without it, I would become a terrible mess like I was before I became a Witness. I have read many experiences on this Board where individuals where after exiting JW's, returned(Farkel for one), returned to a life of Fornication and drug abuse. That would be me. Also remember, I was truly indoctrinated, with many "Privileges" with this Organization.

  But who knows, I often dream of just walking away from it all. If my wife got to this point, it would be easier.
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  My Bible Study Is Wide Awake To The TTATT

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.

  we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!

  "did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.

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  HappyDad

  I thought the same thing and even told the COBE about it and he said, "It's our History". I said ok, I warned you!
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  My Bible Study Is Wide Awake To The TTATT

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.

  we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!

  "did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.

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  James Jack

  He wanted to meet with 2 Elders to discussed his situation, I told him I know these guys, it will not go well with you.

  I said, " you got 7 children at home, they need some Spiritual guidance at this point in their life. Nobody has the complete truth that I am aware of. You and I have too much invested with this Organization, also family to throw it all away. But we are empowered with information to make sound decisions. Just lay low, enjoy life, we have each other, our families! You can call me anytime to talk."

  This is all that has happened at this time. We haven't talk since then.

  I will keep everyone updated.
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  My Bible Study Is Wide Awake To The TTATT

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.

  we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!

  "did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.

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  James Jack

  I ran into my old Bible Study at the Kingdom Hall recently, he was Baptized as a JW 8 years ago. We started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.

  "My wife and I are deeply troubled by the Watchtower change of Doctrine, Prophecy, and their History"! "Did you know about Charles Russell and his failed marriage... his view of Pyramids... Generation mistakes... and Dates... that place in California for returning Prophets..."and on and on he went.

  I told him I knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (I think it is Divine Plan of the Ages), and it had a fold out of a Pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big A was going to happen. He asked me how I deal with it. More to come...
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  g81 3/22 - The Electric Church

  by Anders Andersen in

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  from awake!

  1981, 3/22:the electric church turns onthe preacher wears no black robes.

  instead, he glistens in a three-piece white polyester suit.

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  James Jack

  I used to include this info in a Public Talk. The article is "Dated" according WTS guidelines.

  Thanks Barbara for the memories!
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  Question: HQ sold for $700 million, will this be announce on the JW site?

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  so i can't stomach going to the jw site, much less spell the site completely.

  but, here is my question....do you think they will announce on the site that they sold the brooklyn building for $700 million?

  my bet is no!.

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  James Jack

  They might, but the Dollar amount will not be listed. "Keep Those Donations Coming"!
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  The real reason so many witnesses end up here....

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  why do so many witnesses end up coming to forums like this?.

  no doubt it is because of the fact that the society disallows any form of sincere questioning of teachings or doctrines or history etc.... if there was open discussion allowed - free of repercussions and punishment, then no one would feel stifled.

  if genuine concerns could be raised, then no one would feel smothered or unable to share thoughts... then in turn many would not leave.... but due to the high control, authoritarian culture the society has created, many feel trapped, and end up searching outside of official channels...and leaving the society.....

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  James Jack

  Ditto everyone!
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  Another Newbie

  by Drifting Away in

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  hello, i have been lurking for a while, but discovered ttatt for about 8 months now.

  i am trying to fade out, problem is i have a big family i would lose if i got df'ed or da,'ed myself.

  my wife knows how i feel, and is not thrilled but i cant hide my feelings.

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  James Jack

  Have any positions with the Organization?
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  Former DO comments on Overlapping Generations

  by James Jack in

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  brother richard (dick) morlan, a former co & do for many years, now lives in gadsden alabama, usa.

  he is 77 years old.

  i saw him at a recent assembly in dekalb county alabama and ask him about the prospects of him dying in this "system of things".. his reply was, "i am going to make it till armageddon, but if i should die before then, then the governing body is going to have to add another overlapping generation to another overlapping generations"!.

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  James Jack

  I think eventually the Organization will differentiate 1914 from the Last Days to make another adjustment to the Generation teaching.